The future of SMF?

Started by binkles, 9 years ago

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binkles

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9 years ago

Cool

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#1
9 years ago
and?
everything is changing all the time...nothing last for ever...just as usual.
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Feline

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#2
9 years ago
I think, that SMF find the right way to improve the development and get stable versions faster.
We all can help on this.

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

royalduke

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#3
9 years ago
Quote from: feline, 9 years ago
I think, that SMF find the right way to improve the development and get stable versions faster.
We all can help on this.

Fel


I agree. It took so long for 2.0 to be released and RC 2 already has known bugs... A famous one would be the post moderation bug. SMF should find a way to patch bugs without needing to upgrade. 

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antechinus

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#4
9 years ago
Yes I think we all know the release cycle for 2.0 has been way too slow. The problem with patching bugs without upgrades is that the only practical way of doing it would be to allow everyone access to the svn revs. These are not always stable and many people would be keen to have "the latest" without having any idea of how to deal with it.

Supporting the different versions of SMF is already a nightmare for support staff. Add svn builds into the mix and it would literally become impossible due to the sheer number of revisions and the changes between them. Making individual patches for every bug fixed would also be a logistical nightmare.

Anyway regarding the future of SMF: we are just about to begin negotiations over this. Hopefully these can be concluded in a few days.
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#5
9 years ago
On point, they I never have understand ...
I have posted a lot of Bugs, also a lot of fixes for that (many runs here) and nothing of them is fixed and nobody have answered what I have wrote.

I'm a charter member since 1.1 RC2, I'm pay each year 50€ .. but for what?

That in the SMF team a couple of "super programmer" to tell me how PHP works?
That I post fixes which are not removed in the next version?
That SMF pushed people who have no idea, how can write clean code?

I'm shocked on this ..  very shocked.
That we can't understand as a clean structure  or development.

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

nend

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#6
9 years ago
Same here, I have been keeping most of my fixes and improvements private. My last post was about a SEO mod I made and it got shot down by the staff there. "SEO is not really needed anymore" is some words I got over there. If it is not needed anymore then why do they start using canonical and robot meta in SMF 2.

They still didn't take my idea for dynamic page descriptions. I have written this for 1.1.* , but plan to adjust it because I just started using SMF 2 on one site I made and instead of using my own portal I picked this one.

They even had me remove my avatar on the SMF site, too flash, may cause seizures, they say. I haven't had anyone complain yet, not worse than the ads on some web sites.  >:(

antechinus

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#7
9 years ago
Fel, Nao has been complaining about the same thing. He often provides fixes with his bug reports but many of them still haven't been implemented. I think a large part of the problem is that there simply aren't enough devs.
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#8
9 years ago
I don't think, that this is a problem with the dev's or to less dev's.
The biggest problem on SMF is, that they don't have programmer they understand his work and have a complete overview of all the SMF functions. It's time to separate the chaff from wizen to.

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

royalduke

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#9
9 years ago
Quote from: antechinus, 9 years ago
Fel, Nao has been complaining about the same thing. He often provides fixes with his bug reports but many of them still haven't been implemented. I think a large part of the problem is that there simply aren't enough devs.


There was a bug with the post moderation, that isn't fixed. I hope PortaMX gets ported to the new Phoenix script that the SMF friends are talking about making. 

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hartiberlin

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#10
9 years ago
Hmm,
very sad to hear that this Cathy woman is trying to control everything and is screwing up
all the delevopers...

Hmmm.. SO what should we do next ?

Should we move away from SMF and go with the Phoenix "fork" ?

Why can´t this "Cathy character" be kicked  out of the Simple Machines LLC ?

Feline

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#11
9 years ago
Currently nobody can say whats go one, so we have wait until it comes a statement from the SMF.

The PortaMx corp. have discussed the situation internally and we will continue the development.
A porting of a other system is currently not planned.

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

royalduke

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#12
9 years ago
Quote from: hartiberlin, 9 years ago
Phoenix  "fork" ?


It will not be a fork, it will be a suite with a forum module/add on. They are discussing about making it easier for SMF mods to be ported into the new script. I don't really see how SMF team works, when ever I ask for support only the SMF-Friends answer and help me with my problem.

In my experience I have noticed that people who are in power, don't like to share and will try to keep themselves "powerful".

My two cents :P

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Feline

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#13
9 years ago
Quote from: hartiberlin, 9 years ago
Why can´t this "Cathy character" be kicked  out of the Simple Machines LLC ?

She is the owner and license holder of SMF LLC ..

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

Feline

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#14
9 years ago
Quote from: royalduke, 9 years ago
It will not be a fork, it will be a suite with a forum module/add on. They are discussing about making it easier for SMF mods to be ported into the new script.

It's a log run to make a completely forum software, they have all the features of SMF .. so we can wait  ;)

Fel
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BurakG

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#15
9 years ago
We have a good software working currently and I doubt it will be expired (in terms of functions and performance) before 1-2 years.
Till then either SMF will stand up or a new software will be developed.

We still have enough time
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hartiberlin

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#16
9 years ago
Quote from: feline, 9 years ago
Quote from: hartiberlin, 9 years ago
Why can´t this "Cathy character" be kicked  out of the Simple Machines LLC ?

She is the owner and license holder of SMF LLC ..

Fel


Hmm, I read an article that stated,
that she was only assigned as the product manager earlier
from the SMF team...
Then it seemed she tried to get all the power when the LLC was formed...

If she is now in control of all the LLC and fucked it all up...
and can not be kicked out anymore. then it surely will
be hard to make new moves...
but when all the main programmers will leave, then she will
not have the power anymore...

So I guess we have to wait and see what comes out of it...

If the SMF friends will make it all better, we should
support them and leave this Cathy character alone...

Regards, Stefan.

royalduke

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#17
9 years ago
I hope the new script will have more features and stuff. It would be nice to have PortaMX there, since it is the only portal with caching.



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Feline

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#18
9 years ago
We are fast, faster, good and better  ;D
And we have for the next update may new goodies implemeted .. today we have tested the brand new MPT CSS (Multi part, Multi theme css). Now a user can create customer css for the blocks in ONE file for ALL themes he have.
The MPT files are converted to css and the css is cached, so we need a convert only if the MPT file changed. Thats all is fast and easy to use ...

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

antechinus

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#19
9 years ago
Sounds great. :)
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hartiberlin

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#20
9 years ago
Well,
how long will it take the SMF-Friends.org to write this new software suite ?
1 year or less ?
Can they just take the SMF 2.0RC2 sources and use them for the
new suite
or is this legally not possible ?

Well, until a stable version will come out from
SMF-friends.org we will still use the normal
SMF and until also many MODs
will be converted , it would probably take its time...

So will this be some kind of simular transition like
the Mambo-> Joomla transition in the early CMS days ?

BurakG

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#21
9 years ago
How much it takes, I am sure at the end we will have 2 valuable options we can go for ;

SMF and Project Phoenix..

Since they are all from SMF I am sure the conversion will be easy and painless .
Destiny. The design is clearly Ancient ..

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#22
9 years ago
Problem though is they can not use any source code from SMF. So if and when they do it, it will be a new system from the ground up. There is allot to like about the features they plan to implement though and how they do it. There are some ideas however I do not like, hopefully they iron it out. But it may be a while until released.

Feline

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#23
9 years ago
I can simple say .. It's not SMF and so nothing of any mod will work.
While all of this project is unknown, we can't say if a adaption possible.

And .. as long SMF is available and supported, the PortaMx corp. will continue the development of us great Portal !

Fel
Many are stubborn in relation to the way, but less in relation to the target.

hartiberlin

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#24
9 years ago
Yes, that is good Feline,
Many thanks for the great support and programming work you are doing !
You are so smart !
:D

I wish I could programm PHP like you !  :-*

Well, maybe in my next live ! ;)

Well, let us just see, what th SMF-friends will come up with
and then we can still see, if it is worth to switch to this platform,
when also MODs are available...

Regards, Stefan.

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